Are there many more things to learn after black belt?

Are there more things to learn or to practice after black belt? Maybe it depends on the system.I heard the black belt is almost like an end to training in many martial arts, but in other systems there are still many things to master after black belt.

Are there many more things to learn after black belt?
Our western societies as a whole need a level of ranking to qualify our knowledge of martial arts... unfortunately.





A black belt/sash merely means one is the master of the basics.





Since there is much more to learn than just the basics, there will always be more to learn beyond black belt ranking status.
Reply:It must be in Karate Sikaran(Philippine Karate) They have at least two more levels to achived. HalfBlack -Half red Belt and Red Belt
Reply:It doesn' take too long to earn a black belt, but then you can spend years and years attaining higher degrees. My brother got his black belt in Aikido something like 20 years ago, and it has taken him all that time to now reach 8th degree blackbelt...
Reply:Yes, like improving and memorising all of your moves/techniques, it is possible to become an instructor on the participating martial art.
Reply:Just because you got your black belt doesn't mean that your the master of anything. There is always something you can still work on and improve. Try sparring with people on your own level to find out what you need to work on. Remember, its the skill not just the belt people arer gonna look at. Good training and goodluck!
Reply:Yes Absolutely, there's ALWAYS more to learn after Black belt, you have to evolve and improve yourself.





all the Black belt really means is your dedication to the discipline.
Reply:In traditional styles, black belt means one is smart enough to know that one doesn't know anything. In our style of karate, the grand master has stated that any sparring before third degree blackbelt is a waste of time.





Knowing all the kata required for black belt just means you can do the pattern in a more or less acceptable manner. The depth comes in learning how to apply the kata in real fighting situations. This is the mistake that many impatient students don't realize. They think that a black belt means they can kick butt. It just means that they are ready to learn.





I really like this guys description of his black belt test:


http://www.pikerpress.com/article.cfm?fo...





I think it captures the essence of the martial art.
Reply:Getting that black belt is only the half of it, I have seen 3rd dan BB who should not have made it past brown.
Reply:Always. Achieving your black belt is like climbing a mountain. As you get to the peak , you can look over and see many more mountains to climb.





For some the learning really starts at black belt.





4th dan tae kwon do
Reply:You could stick with it until you reach 10th Dan


Or you could Teach


Or you could pick up another martial art to expand your Knowledge
Reply:If a black belt is the end. Then you are ready for the UFC.





Go ahead and sign up. We will expect you to win.








If you do not then you have your answer. Then you will realise that a black belt means absolutely nothing. I have stated it here many times. I enjoy removing so called masters black belts and choking them with it.





I get great satisfaction from this.
Reply:Yes, googobs of things! You can go on to your next degree! My sensei is a fourth degree. The highest person in our style is a TENTH degree black belt. I've heard people say your black belt is really just the beginning...
Reply:Getting your black belt isn't 'the end', it's a beginning. It's kind of like graduating from high school-- you have the basics, now it's time to REALLY learn!
Reply:In my system there are many degrees after black belt. I think about six. You have to be in each rank for a while before you can take the test for the next rank.
Reply:You can always improve.
Reply:There is a great deal to lear after achieving a black belt. I earned mine 27 almost 28 years ago and find that I am STILL learning on a regualr basis. The only time you stop learning is when you stop training, stop practicing, stop using what you've learned. As long as you continue to train, you will continually find new things, even if they are little more than a subtle nuance tyou hadn't noticed before, or a shift in stance add extra reach, or fluidity, or power, or speed to a punch or kick, or that improves balance. Learning NEVER stop unitl training does.
Reply:In the karate i do there are 8 black belts and when you have got your 8th there is still things to learn. i am grading for my 1st black belt next week in London. but i am only 13. i have been training for 6 years.
Reply:The path of martial arts is life long. You will always have more to learn.
Reply:In Korean Arts, 1st degree blabk belt is called Cho Dan which means beginning level. 1st degree Black Belt is a beginner. In any traditional style there are many levels of black belt. In Korean styles there are 9. There are enormous differences between levels.
Reply:hahahahahahahhahahahahaha sorry a bb in any style is only a rank to show you are a beginner.black belt-shodan ho-probationary black belt.ist dan-shodan-full black belt.not that ranks really mean anything but you are only just starting to learn at bb not ending.i have never heard bb is almost an end in any ma.ma is a never ending journey that begins at bb.
Reply:To answer your question.........YES.





Allow me to explain.





The belt system, was implemented to show where a student was/level of traning for example.





The belt system was actually implemented by kano, gigoro, the founder of judo. He created the DAN/KYU system, DAN meaning level and KYU meaning grade.








Not any different from the military private through general.





Prior to that 'sashes' were used.





There are generally different colors in the kyu grades, white, yellow, orange, green, blue, purple, red/brown, brown, brown with black stripe, black.





Starting from lightest to darkest.





All a black belt is.......is a dirty white belt. Hell, even before they had uniforms, or 'gi's' they used something that looked like a diaper to train in. the dogi was also a judo thing.





Most teachers won't even begin to show you anything that is that dangerous or difficult until you reach 1st degree.





Why?





Because it takes about three to five years of continuous, dedicated hard training according of the masters of old (itosu anko, and matsumura, those type of guys) before one would become proficient in an art.





And besides that, if I was to teach you, it would take at least that long before I can trust you enough to know whether or not I can divulge the information to you to make sure you'll use your judgement wisely. I don't want to show you something and then have you run off at the mouth and tell everyone else, "hey, let me show you something cool I learned in class" type of deals, and DEFINETELY don't want you going out and snapping somebodies neck because in your early stages of traning you haven't been humbled enough, nor learned the discipline it takes for fighting to be "beneath" you.





So yes, it is the beginning.





Good luck





zdozzzer


2nd DAN
Reply:There is the level of training that Black Belt signifies in every martial art, and from that point the Artist will spend his life mastering every technique he has learned.
Reply:My Tae Kwon Do Grandmaster always says "The Black Belt is not the end, it is the beginning." There is a lot more stuff to learn after you get your Black Belt! In martial arts, you are never finished! There are always new things to learn, and old things to perfect!
Reply:Blackbelt is just the beginning.


You don't really learn anything until you reach this level,
Reply:Well I take Tae Kwon Do, and in our system there are many things more you can learn after black belt. There are different degrees of black, there are also instructor degrees. Although people reach black, our system is that no one is perfect and there are always more things to achieve and get better at. So there are more belts after black.
Reply:The belts grading system in a ma is just a show of commitment to the path you have chosen,martial arts,all styles of fighting if its boxing or street fighting all have advantages and obvious disadvantages,and as a race we have been shown these arts of fighting that have been passed down thousands of generations and we have made changes and modified them into diffrent styles of fighting,the more you train the more you learn,the more you evolve,all ma's and there masters have different levels of what they train there students at,i'm only a Yellow belt jujitsu,but i have trained against other students from different clubs with brown and black belts and there level of fitness was laughable,but they have the belts,does that make them good at what they do,or just what there instructor thought they had trained enough to get the belt.