Saturday, November 14, 2009

How did he got his black belt so fast, without any background in martial arts whatsoever ??

I've read on wikipedia some days ago on some american martial artist who is now some sort of fighters legend. I'm sorry, I forgot his name . He was stationed in Japan after ww2 as a soldier. He didn't had any martial or fighter expirience before he got there and that was when he started to train at (forgot again) japanese dojo. He has earned his black belt in a mere 7 months ! I mean , colud someone be that big of a talent , or how much did they had to train. My god that is a man to take as an idol ...


He was a soldier and as one i presume he had his obligations towards the army he had to fufill on a daily basiss so he colud . I guess train max 5 hours a day. But still....whow


And if you think it was a Mc'Dojo you're wrong.

How did he got his black belt so fast, without any background in martial arts whatsoever ??
Not uncommon. You have to remember that, although in the West we consider a black belt to be an "expert", in Japan a black belt is someone who has mastered the basic form, and is now ready to begin really learning. Hence the term for a first degree blackbelt - Sho-dan = "First step/level"
Reply:mc dojo lol
Reply:That actually not that uncommon. I have heard of some dojos in America (and these aren't Mc'Dojos either) that will offer a membership designed to help you achieve black belt in under one year. so with training and the right discipline, it could be done very quickly without substituting quality of training for speed of training.





also there are people out there that instinctively know how to fight. With the right amount of training, these people can hone their skills to great levels and a shorter amount of time.
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Reply:it would depend on how much time and effort the person put in.in my opinion if you put the time and effort in there should be no minimum time frame to achieve a black belt.not that it means much anyway,its the man not the belt.a belt is just a piece of cotton.
Reply:it is absolutly possible all the guy had to do was train his butt off 7 days a week a blackbelt isnt meant to show how long you have been doing martial arts it is to show your talent in it
Reply:Beats me it took me 5 years to get mine. He could have already have been training and got to keep his old rank.
Reply:in the west we train maybe 2 or 3 times a week for 2 hours at a time (in front of the instructor).


if we say 2 days X 2 hours, we have 4 hours a week.


4 X 52 = 208 hours a year.


if an average Black belt is 5 yrs in the west. (for arguments sake) then that would be black belt = 1040 hours. so thats about 1000 hours of training in front of the instructor to gain a black belt.





if he trained for 4 hours a day, 6 days a week thats 24 hours a week.


24 X 52 = 1248 hours.


more than enough for a black belt by western dream standards.





but if he did it in 7 months, that about 28 weeks, he would need to go about 5.5 hours a day 7 days a week.





it really depends on what the instructor want ed from him gaining his belt. if the instructor wanted western access it would be in his best interest to promote the guy faster.


without all the facts, or even a name, who can really say what went on.
Reply:It's possible with the highest level of talent and ability to learn and retain information. Very possible. He was most definately not only very talented but also extremely intelligent. If he's on Wiki then he was probably the real deal.
Reply:In our school a student who trains full time, attends all of the intensive classes and normal open classes can attain a black sash within one year. Obviously, physically, they will not be the same as they will be one year later, but they will have learnt the techniques and details and then the onus is on them to continue to train and advance themselves.


The other thing to remember is that even though martial arts techniques get progressively more advanced and intricate it does not mean that they are harder to learn. With our system, as you progress it actually becomes easier to learn the advanced levels because you have been building up to them since day one.


"Last week I showed you how to crawl. This week I show you how to walk and next week I will show you how to run."
Reply:You said he was in the military.....as far as I know, they taught some form of self defense in the military. So he didn't have a complete lack of training. Plus he was probably physically fit because of the military.





I agree with Bushido, its about talent/skill/etc. If you are good enough to attain a black belt in 2 yrs or one year, then good for you.
Reply:In those days, in japan, belts didn't mean what they do in America today. Gaining a "black belt" wasn't all that cool. a black belt was not uncommon. They didn't worship it like people do here, now. In a system were forms are a major or all of the req. then learning what is needed dosen't seem to bad. And again, there wasn't such a big tado about it then. You could learn one or two kata (I mean learn them) spend all your time and training on just one or two and make it to black belt level. It was all about doing one thing very well, or as close to perfect as you can get. But then again, I could be wrong.


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