does that training really help in a real-life fight ? I feel like the training assumes that you will only fight people who also practice martial arts , which is not true . For example , in real life someone might hit you on the head and just be done with you , instead of tediously exchanging punches and kicks and blocks with you
Question to Karate people , martial arts practitioners in general?
Martial arts training is repetition.
Through repetition you develop instinct.
Instinct means you never have to think about what you are going to do in the event of an attack.
If you just learn the movements of the kata and not the hidden meanings, you are merely learning to kick and punch.
Karate is so much more than kick-punch.
It is hard to locate a teacher who can teach you the principles that you need for this. When you do, you are learning true art.
When you learn true art, the scenario doesn't matter.
US Kenshikai
Oyata Shin Shu Ho
Shinjinbukan
Ron Lindsay of Balstrop Texas...
These are all people who can teach you a deep understanding of your art. There are others too.
Reply:Martial arts training has changed over the years...used to a school only taught one art...so off you went looking to join a school. First you go to the japanese karate studio and they told you there are the best...next korean karate school next door would say they were the best.
Nowdays we have mixed martial arts, and schools are teaching a combination of boxing, martial arts and street defense.
Reply:The attacks are basically the same.
Someone throws a punch to your face
Someone jumps you from behind %26amp; puts you in a headlock
Someone grabs you by the shirt
Think about it,it's all the same.
The average person isn't a trained fighter.
The trained fighter isn't an average person.
Reply:I would suggest your presumption of the fundamental purpose of traditional training is flawed and inaccurate. If you consider the original purpose, it was purely for defense against anyone - whether they knew your style, another style, or no style at all.
Perhaps you are confusing competition, or the martial arts movies where one school challenges another school, with the realities of the traditional arts.
All arts were, and continue to be, founded on a principal of helping the individual defend themselves against all types of oppression - whether physical aggression, mental subjegation, or spiritual assault. Today the purpose of the arts have, naturally, evolved, but all decent instructors will continue to imbue their classes and instructor with a sense of reality for the likely situations their students may face and have to respond to.
While sucker punches and blind strikes can defeat the most proficient and effective martial artist, training and preparation is the best option for protecting yourself. It will certainly be better than sitting at home, watching the UFC, and thinking you know all about how to defend yourself :)
Ken C
9th Dan HapMoosaKi-Do
8th Dan TaeKwon-Do
7th Dan YongChul-Do
Reply:Its effectiveness depends on how hard you train.
Reply:This exchange of kicks punches etc you describe only occurs in sport and most experienced martial artists know that.A street fight that lasts 3 minutes is a looooooong street fight whether one or both are trained or not.
Reply:Unfortunately many schools do not teach "street" applications.
Don't fault the art. A well trained martial artist has an advantage in a street fight, just as a boxer might have an advantage if he has some street smarts. No wise well trained martial artist wants to exchange blocks and punches they want it over as quickly as possible knowing the longer it last the more trouble he is in.
What you see in a martial arts class going through drills is not the same as a fight. It is only practicing moves.
Reply:It's all about giving yourself a better chance, the best chance for survival and for victory, any guy can get lucky one day, maybe they get you in a sweet spot or you trip over or something, nothing is 100% but you give yourself the best chance if you train
Reply:the training creates repetition and that creates the ability to react instinctively to a situation knowing what to do without knowing!
That is why you train over and over and over again relentlessly. seek Sum Yung Guy Sifu they say he has all the worlds answers and can teach you the GLOW!!!
Good luck looking!!
Reply:Well it helps to get the RIGHT training
http://youtube.com/watch?v=O7_dzu4TQDs
Reply:You're assuming that the drills you learn while training are all you need to fight. It isn't, ever served in the military? If so, ever wonder why the first thing they teach you is not how to shoot a rifle, but how to hold it and stand at attention, salute and march around the grounds in formation while carrying it? So you ask yourself, how is all that marching gonna make you a better soldier? The point is, you need to learn discipline before you learn how to fight, otherwise you'll just be a one trick pony who relies on one technique and strategy all the time and the moment you run into something you've never faced before, you run out of steam and choke. You need to learn discipline first so you can take on the obstacles ahead, without it, you'll quit the first chance you get. Real fights are about who has the stronger mindset and drive to survive and come out on top, not about techniques. If you can comprehend this then you'll know that a strong mind requires discipline, which is the first thing they teach you at boot camp and in most of the martial arts schools out there that does not fall under the category of a McDojo.
Reply:What style of Karate do you do? there is so much variation, just saying you take Karate is not enough. Heck, even some Korean Taekwondo schools call their style Karate. Karate is Okinawan. Do you take Isshinryu, Goju-ryu, Uechi-ryu, or Shorin-ryu... or one of it's Japanese derivatives that were exported to mainland Japan in the 20th century?.. Shotokan (from Shorin-ryu Highschool Curriculum), Koushin (from Shotokan after WWII), Goju-Kai. (From Goju-ryu)
Reply:Karate does prepare you for a real fight, depending on how it is taught. There are instructors that either do not teach or do not know the practical application of karate, and there are a lot of them out there. Unfortunately, they have been the point that the public has based their opinion of karate on.
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